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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote jet Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 04 Nov 2010 at 4:52pm
I think there is a real need here by the sound of it, trouble is we are all so spread out round the country it would be so difficult to organise something.  Maybe PHA could help out here, I know its a lot to ask but if everyone could meet I am sure afterwards they would keep in contact.  I know my husband would find it difficult writing on here but would find it easier face to face. It is a horrible disease and I love and appreciate everything he does for me, which is a lot!!!
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote eve Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 04 Nov 2010 at 4:21pm
well said lisa Clap at the first confernence I attended in nottingham four years ago there were little groups set up after the main presentations they were on different topics  I attended the peadiatric one where parents could sit and be open about their fears or little niggles one of the others was PH and intimacy ......... It is a pity that this sort of thing wasnt available this year as it sounds as if it would have been very usefull for careers to get together and talk openly and maybe make friends with others whom they could pm or chat too on here .
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Hi mel hunn .x.

 dont be silly you DONT EVER have to appolagize for a  moan  , its what we do best on here, listen when times are dark , low and hard   .x.
The carer  seems to be forgotten at times ,and i bet its hard sometimes between yourself and your wife ( goodness me and graham are at each others throats sometimes  coz of the frustration from both sides as u said  , oh and hunn  im the one with the ph .x.)                But some how we just get over it and plod along ,  dont we .x.   till the next time Wink .

  I try to look at the "" Future "  like this , we kinda know our "" dealt hand of cards "" and is a weirdly- strange kinda way know whats on the cards for us  and whats lurking around the corner  , some folk dont have a clue   whats lurking in the depths of there body .( it just sometimes helps a little , well for me anyway )
 WE all have to GRAB the Glass and view it as a"" HALF FULL GLASS !  "",  always look at the"" POSITIVES ""the   "bright side"" ,  iv been very low and down over the past few months but i am in the process of kicking into gear my tush and looking in my half full glass and enjoying life .
 It is hard but we all are here to pull each other through ,  and HUNNN YOU ARE YOUR WIFE'S BACK BONE ,  do u know i wrote in a card once to my graham that he was my oxygen , my backbone , the blood that runs through my body and with out him i would die .                             I KNOW your wife feels the same bout you ,  im really hoping this is coming across as im meaning it as i am really   BIGGING YOU UP HUNN .x. 
 Husbands , wife's ,sons, daughters ,moms, dads , sisters and brothers   EVERY one whom cares for someone with this horrid illness is a   HERO !!!!!!!!!!!  .x.x.x.x.x.x.  with out YOU we just wouldn't function .x         

   hope this helps mel .x.

    take care KEEP STRONG luv and strength
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Hi all

 Not sure if this is the right place to post this but i was reading all of the above comments about Husbands being carers.

 I am a carer to my lovely Wife Naomi who has had PH 8 years she had a Thrombeondarterectomy in 2002 which was not a complete success she still has PH with residual clots.

 I would just like to put my view forward as a Husband/Carer since the op when i spent 2 weeks alone with Naomi in papworth miles away from home in Derby, i felt lost and alone and those 9 hours when she had the op i was by myself in a white small tv room it was not nice and still haunts me today when i close my eyes i can see it!. since then a few friends that we made there have passed away because of this illness which knocked us sideways.

 Anyway this is how i feel i have lost my friends dont go drinking anymore i worry if Naomi is ok and phone home every 20 mins if i do go out  to check on her! i have no really close family that care or who give a damn. i am full of hate. anger. depression. regret  i cant cry anymore i ran out of tears 8 years ago. although we have the kids to look after i feel useless watching Naomi suffer when she does the smallest task and i can't help her. she keeps telling me to go out and relax but i can't this is where i want to be. I hate her illness with a passion. and now she has a hernia that the doc's will not touch its extra extra light duties which frustrates her as well.

 And knowing eventually we will have to go back for a transplant in the future and knowing what is coming like stopping in papworth and the recovery an the lonely feeling at night is hard for me not to think about Naomi can block it all out i wish i could. I Love Naomi with all my heart and i will always be here for her no matter what happens. 

 Sorry for the moan
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Or taking the chance if anyone wants to email me im happy to give out details for my husband, i know its not the manly thing to do but he has supported me so much during this last year and getting my head round things ive been a bit selfish in forgetting that he is actually going through the same thing and prob worse as he is still working full time, has a demanding job and me to look after as well as our daughter. Its time i did something for him and got him in touch with other partners who need to talk and not sure how to take the first step, just like him xx
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I think my husband would benefit from meeting some other partners who are going through dealing with PH and all it brings, in an informal situation. I think its as hard for them as it is for us and they always have to put the brave face on. I think the conference would have been an ideal situation but unfortunately we were unable to make it this year. Perhaps there may be some other events/ support group meetings during the course of the year - I think I've seen dates for the Papworth support meetings posted on here before.    

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I feel the same for my husband we got married 1n 2007 and I was diagnosed with IPH in Dec 2009 (almost a year) he has been great he makes up my flolan at the weekends to give me a break and is really good at helping round the house. I just feel so guilty its not been the married life we expected  Its been hard finding out not to have children which was something that was important to both of us and although he doesnt say it I know it upsets him and I sometimes think that he would be better off with someone else. I worry about who will be there for him if something happens to me as his family don't really spend time with him if we didn't visit them we would never see them (his mum has only visited 2 times this last year). I think that we have also realised who our friends are and people we thought were good friends have shown their true colours!
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The groups that Jane (jet) spoke of before Xmas, were aimed at gaining views on a new tissue bank, we arranged them into the two groups of 'people with PH' and 'close family/supporters' to encourage unihibited perspectives from both sides...they were a great success..alongside acheiving their objectives the thoughts & feelings expressed together with those from previous focus group work and the direct experiences of the Chairman, trustees and PHA-UK office staff has highlighted the need for support for immediate family/supporters.  Knowing them to be the people that they are, I'm more than sure they have ideas/plans in mind/under discussion/way to meet that need.
 
  
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I think my husband Joss could probably do with support from other partners too. As the shock of a PH diagnosis has died down, I think wider issues are going to raise their head for him - like the fact we now can't have children, which I know hasn't worried him too much in the past year because he's been so worried about me.
 
He has gone from being "The man of the house" to being cook, cleaner & laundrette. I still work full time so I don;t think he necessarily sees himself as my carer, just a very busy husband....
 
He's said before he doesn't want to post on the forum as it is my thing, and I think he would feel bad if he moaned on here and I read it.
 
I definetley think he would benefit from meeting other PH partners. So I hope he comes to the next conference with me. It was really good to see that carer support was picked up at the conference.
 
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The Papworth support group is for patients and carers. There is a bit of a 'boys club' that has formed amongst many of the partners. I can't remember when the next one is though LOL
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Im so glad that i found the courage to go to the weekend and then join the forum, little lights keep going on with each reply that i read, knowing that although everyones situation and journey is very personal to them, they are all very similar to others!  Mu husbands close friends have all moved around the country, the closest one being 150 miles away, at the start of this journey we had a few emergency rescues from his friends where they dropped everything to come over and collect him when he really couldnt hold it together any more and needed to talk, but as life is returning or adapting to our normal now, he has really started saying that he needs someone that understands what hes going through.  Are there regular meetings set up for carers or is it just as and when? xx

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Hi Janey,
 
I already had PH when I met my partner of 19 years, Kev.  Our family life has always been adapted around my PH and over the years poor Kev has had to cope with some pretty scary situations as all partners/carers have probably found themselves coping with too.  Over the last few years Kev has had the support of the PH team at Sheffield, and they are wonderful, but prior to that, we were each others support.
 
It was only last year, having been on the forum for 6 months or so, that we finally met other Phers and their families.  Not only have we made some great friends, but Kev finally has the support from fellow partners/carers and hopefully he can support them too.
 
Even though I am a Sheffield patient both Kev and myself are made most welcome at the Papworth Support group meetings and enjoy the social get togethers.  If you can travel to a support group it really is worth doing for yourself, your Husband and family. 
 
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I agree with you Janey, it is a bit the same for both of us.  My husband doesnt talk to his close friends about his feelings and I dont talk to mine either as they dont want to really hear what I have to say, some dont even acknowledge that I am ill.  I talk to people on here a lot but I dont think he has been on here at all.  It would probably do them all the world of good to get together in an organised meeting which has got some structure otherwise they would just waffle to each other.  I know my husband wouldnt go unless I went as well.  I worry about mine as well. xx
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Margaret you hit the nail on the head there! Men have to be manly! But when facing conditions like PH and many other life changing ones, they are so busy being our rocks that no one looks out for them and thats what i worry about!
I was ill for 14 months before diagnosis, my life completely changed during that time and so did his and our daughters, for me finally having a diagnosis was a relief that there was something wrong with me and that it wasnt all in my head, then reality kicked in and once again he was there holding me up. But a year on, we have a completely different life than we used too, and whilst i have adpated slowly- i am now ill health retired at the age of 35, he still has a full time job, under pressure there as is government with all the cuts going on at the moment, then he comes home and does whatever ive not been able to do during the day as well as whatever needs to be done with our daughter, its alot for anyone to take on!  Having PH has helped us to really talk about things, and that does help, but he needs others who are in the same situation to be able to sound off now and again. I feel for him really. xx
 
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I think my husband would benefit from a carers support group for PH. He has been my full time carer since I ended up in a wheelchair 12 years ago, but my PH was only diagnosed this year. Apart from meeting with Nicola and her husband, when we went to Scotland, he doesn't have anyone he can talk to about it, and his feelings. Think we all know that men try to hide their feelings because it is the "Manly" way to deal with things. He does attend a disability carers support group, run from the day centre I attend, but they are all carers of Physically Handicapped partners, I don't think anyone there cares for someone with a lung disorder.
He understands the implications of PH and knows how it can affect peole in different ways, but that it not the same as having someone to talk to who knows what the carers go through, while they are so busy being strong for us, there is no-one helping them, and asking them how they are coping.
I have suggested he looks on the website, but don't think he will!!
Hopefully we will get to a conference next year, and he will then have the opportunity to talk to others in the same position.
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Patients from various centres attend the Papworth meetings.
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Jet are these discussion groups a regular thing?
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Oh im at the royal free too! No i have PH idiopathic Primary, been tested for everything else and all negative so no idea how i got it.
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It was a discussion group held in Birmingham last Xmas. I also go to the Royal Free, is your PH secondary to something else?? 

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Thanks for your replies, i think men do struggle more - i now my husband does. Where was this session that you attended Jet?
The papworth, im under Royal Free can we go to other centres? Just for support and guidance?
 
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